I was debating whether or not to drag myself to the movies to see what this Twilight business is all about, but thanks to this video, I don’t have to!
I love me some unconventional vampires–Preacher, I am Legend and Carrion Comfort are a few favorite books– but I just get the feeling Twlight isn’t for me.
In other news, my very most favorite currently-running comic, Fables, is in development at ABC. A FABLES TV series has such potential, especially if they make it more Mad Men than Smallville or Heroes. If they can get the casting right for Bigby Wolf, he’ll be the Don Draper of 2010. And it’s such a ripe ensemble — slutty prince charming, scheming Beauty and thick-headed Beast, sexy Snow White and Rose Red. If they focus on these characters instead of fairy tale inspired special powers, it could be something special. Fingers crossed!
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Oh man, I loved this, and doubt if there’s anymore of the story worth telling that wasn’t shown in this. Not to offend anyone, but honestly I don’t know why Twilight has become so popular, it all just seems like Mary-Sue fanfiction taken to the max to me…I think Twilight finally marks the moment when Vampires loose their coolness and street cred…I just can’t take them seriously anymore…I’ll have to pass this onto a friend who’s tempted to read the books, she won’t have to after this lovely summary.
And I’ve never heard of Fables before, although it sounds sort of interesting. I’ll have to remember to look into it sometime (Especially if they do the really off the wall fairy tales, not the same ones we’ve heard over and over through our childhood’s).
Wait, vampires had street cred? o_O
Depends on the street. Sesame Street — vampires got major cred, yo.
Ugh! I can’t stand Twilight! If you see Queen of the damned (Nothing like the novel of the same name) I got the impression the director had wanted to do Twilight and got the rights to the wrong novel. Twilight has become a truly obnoxious fad. I miss Lestat. The blond blue eyed brat prince who actually had some thinking capacity despite his impulsiveness, who looked suspiciously like Jareth.
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That’s Jareth side by side with the Innovation comic books version of Lestat.
Holy crap, Fables will be a TV show? The comic that features people in faerie tales living lives (very adult lives, mind you)? Seriously? …
I don’t know. Will people really go for that kind of thing. How in the world will they do the Three Bears? I’m kind of scared, tbh. It’s like Into the Woods on serious crack. And if they start re-altering story-lines, I’m not going to be a happy camper.
Andi,
Like you say, there are a lot of ways the show could end up not so happily ever after. Personally, I’m hoping that they don’t try to stick with the original storylines, except for the big relationship story with Bigby/Snow and the Prince’s power play & other politics. They need to find a rhythm that works for TV, and the story archs in the comic, while brilliant, aren’t very episodic. That said, I could totally see the wooden soldiers storyline building up over the course of a season while other new stories are told.
Fables? I think I’ve missed out on something… Faerie Tale characters having to adapt to our world? Sounds like “Enchanted”, although from everyone’s posts it sounds with much PG-13/R elements in it.
Wait…
BIGBY? *screams silently and bangs head on desk* Bad flashbacks! Bad, bad, BAD FLASHBACKS! Bigby was like… a scotty-dog on a computer game that I played as a little kid. It was a “family-friendly” game that both fascinated and terrified me when I was small. Not THAT Bigby, right?
Gobblinize, I don’t know about that Bigby… I had a family-friendly platformer called “Bubsy” about a bobcat who collected yarn balls and fought aliens or something. Closest thing I know of. In this case, Bigby is short for “Big Bad” as in he’ll blow your house down. Only he looks like a cross between wolverine and a linebacker and has the hots for Snow White, but doesn’t know how to express it.
While Fables has a similar soundning premise to Enchanted, in style and tone it has next to nothing in common. The cast of characters is also huge — basically any character from folk lore and fairy tales, no matter how obscure, makes an appearance in one for or another. And these aren’t the Disneyfied versions at all. Best to just give it a read and see for yourself. The whole series is great, but it isn’t until volume 3 that it really gets the epic scope that the rest of the series maintains.
Twilight is WONDERFUL!!!
Cooooooool. I so have to check Fables out now.
Bubsy the Bobcat sounds like a feline version of the machine gun toting rabbit games my friend used to obsess over. Whenever I’d come over, he’d always have this new boss battle he wanted to show me or a bonus zone that was THE bonus zone.
No comment on Twilight. I’ve found that along with the many rabid fans as there are out there, there are also rabid Twilight-haters.
Well, here is the thing, Jake. I sat down for a while away from the computer, flipped through the comics and thought about it for a long time.
Perhaps there could be refreshment to the storyline, perhaps. But, I am STILL a bit worried on the tone, the costuming, and the overall appearance of the show. Certain shows (if done with a fantasy flair) have to have a balance. But, to see the show without the fantasy that the flair that the comics, have, … Eh.
I’ll really have to see pictures before I can give a full answer on this, tbh.
But, I’m glad you’re excited for it!
Well, there’s one thing really good about Twilight. Jareth is in it. Whenever they’re in the science room, you can see him behind their desk. I have proof.
Really? If you’re being serious, can you send me a screen cap.
For a really accurate review of Twilight, check out this review:
http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/thatguywiththeglasses/bum-reviews/2741-twilight
If you get past the yelling, he’s pretty spot on with the whole movie
WOW, I just read the FAQ’s for Twilight on IMDB, and honestly I had no idea the sparkling thing was actually in the movie.
I thought it was just people making fun of the one Vampire guy for being ‘Oh-so-Perfect’, y’know like how people in cartoons smile and then they get the little shine on their teeth? I didn’t know it was actually real…
I didn’t think it was possible, but I now hate Twilight even more. God, sparkly vampires. How in the hell did these books catch on?
Well, when I was looking at flair on facebook, I typed in “Labyrinth”. On the second or third page, I saw a button with Edward close up in the science room and the owl behind him. That’s my substantial proof.
Eh, kind of cruel that the stuffed owl is associated with Jareth. If anything, why don’t you associate it with Hedwig (since she actually, erm, died?)?
I think, personally, if you like Twilight – then you’re giving shame to Jane Austin, William Shakespeare, and Charlotte Broente. Because Stephenie just rips off those books.
I could get into a lot harsher reasons of why I don’t like Twilight and how it’s writing is filling the heads of our teenagers with ugly morals and unfilled expectations on life… but I’ll end there.
Twilight was ok…until the huge and annoying fanbase got it. Now I just really can’t stand it. I went to the midnight release of the fourth one before I developed my dislike…but upon reading the fourth one, it just finally hit me: Twilight is annoying. Way too much fluff (hell, if it were any more stuffed with fluff it could be a Winnie the Pooh sequel!) and I’m not a big fan of first-person narrated books. The vampire legend in this is like a vase thrown at the wall then put together again using duct tape and painted pink, with some smiley face stickers stuck on the finished product. Just doesn’t work for me =/ For a really great romance novel, I prefer Pride and Prejudice; now THAT, my goods friends, is worth reading.
Overrated as it may seem, I’m going to try and write a vampire novel in the future if possible; but I promise you all that if I do write this, I’ll kick it old school and have the cruel and sadistic vampires back. None of these touchy-feely creeps who hardly deserve the word.
That said, I’m going to run now before the Twilight-fans kill me <_< Cheerio! *runs*
True, the fourth one did in fact S-U-C-K compared to the first two (which I believe are the only acceptable volumes). I have many book ideas
My ideas:
1) A type of renaissance or kingdom story similar to Jane Eyre. A young girl grows up as a servent to the royal advisor or high- up official close to the king. At one point he adopts her as a daughter so that she can be an assistant to him at the castle. The prince gets to know her and at one point he falls head over heels for her, but he doesn’t admit it until later. His sister is in line for the crown. After he comes out to the servent girl about his feelings, his sister is poisoned by some scheming rebels. He is therefore entitled to the crown and he cannot refuse the duty bestowed upon him, so his and the servent’s dreams of living together are ended. Then it goes into a whole bunch of treason and stuff, a prisoner falls in love with the girl after she spends some time in prison, an old woman hides her from authorities. I won’t go into the rest.
2) Something about magicians that don’t use wands. Two young orphans -one boy and one girl- befriend one another in the orphanage. The boy had some magical abilities that are mysterious to him so he hides them. One day the girl is kidnapped by ominous strangers who seem tied to magic. An older magician saves the both of them, and the boy is so scared for the girl’s safety that he requests the old magician take him in as an apprentice so he can become strong enough to protect her. The magician uses a spell to wipe the memory of everyone in town, but fails to completely brainwash the girl, because the boy’s magic has affected her. Before he leaves, she implores him to promise to return, and she seals the promise by giving half of a broken butterfly pendent that she believes her mother left to her. This is only background info for the story shall take place around twelve or thirteen years later when he returns.
I have many other, but I won’t go into them here. Too much info.
Oh the second book, I plan to title it “Butterfly kisses”. Think that’s too corny?
Not corny so much as it could already be the title of a book. I’m pretty sure there’s already a song by that name, and if there’s a copyright on it then it’s there until the singer dies + 70 years (I learned that in Government class, woot!) If I were you, I’d wait until the story’s written, then focus on the title. Although if you really need one, you could just number them, or do a makeshift title. Maybe that’s just me though….whenever I write my short stories for Creative Writing class, I wait until I’m all done to decide on a title. I’m really big on writing ^_^; My head’s ALWAYS coming up with stories. Mostly fantasy though, non-fiction is too boring.
You should try writing those out, they sound good =D
Go for Maggie. I really like your plot premise on the second one. “Butterfly Kisses” would be a perfect title for it.
*looks around guilty* I write too, but right now all my stuff really stinks. I mean, the ideas sound good in my head until I start writing them down and then it’s like “WHAAAAT? THAT IS SOOOO LAME!” I have two and a half ideas that I’m working on and I’m not feeling stupid for writing.
I like writing about betrayals for some reason… It probably means I’m emotionally disturbed, but then a lot of authors are emotionally disturbed when I come to think about it.
I know exactly what you mean about ideas in my head. I’ll be in the car thinking about a whole paragraph I could write. Then when I try to write it, it sounds like trash. I’m strongest in essay writing, but I have problems with creative because my statistical side will want to interfere.
I sort of know what you mean, but for me it’s more of a drawing thing that an writing thing. I find that I’ll be puttering around, doing nothing, then I’ll notice a shape or silhouette of something and an idea will grab me, and I’ll just have to draw something. A lot of the times it doesn’t turn out like whats in my head, which is so incredibly aggrivating.
I’m not a writer, but I’m a good idea person, especially when I’m in a group and we’re bouncing ideas off of each other. I’m hoping to become a concept artist for video games one day, so hopefully being an idea person will pay off.
So hint hint Jake, just in case you guys need some help designing Goblins I’d be more than willing to try and help ^_^
These comment areas don’t move very fast do they? o.O
Well, how about a Hamster on a Piano to liven things up!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRzTfgds0UI
Jakester, I’m chiming in late here, and this is probably going to come as something of a shock, but I liked “Twilight.” I speak as someone who couldn’t get 40 pages into the book, but I thought the film was really good. The cast was across-the-board excellent, especially Kristin Stewart as Bella, and Catherine Hardwicke was an inspired choice as director. If you’ve seen “Thirteen” or “Lords of Dogtown” you’ll know that she gets teenagers’ emotions like nobody else in the biz. (The early scenes where Edward and Bella are forced to sit next to each other and are so uncomfortable with their hormonal stirrings that they want to jump out of their skins, are authentic in a way I’ve never seen before in a Hollywood film.) It’s also beautifully shot, with a terrific sense of place and climate. (Somehow when studio films go on location they can make the most exotic setting look like Hollywood; “Twilight”’s location feels so authentic you’d think it was made by local talent.)
It isn’t really a vampire movie; it certainly isn’t a horror movie; it’s doesn’t have a plot worth speaking of, and it veers awfully close to outright goofiness several times. But it’s a romance that understands the heart of its audience, infused with the tang of genuine adolescent pain. It’s an improbable hybrid of teen romance and indie film, and it’s one of my favorite films of the year.
(And lest you think I’m turning into a 13-year-old girl, Steve “Manly Man” Mitchell liked it too!) (But then, I probably AM turning into a teenage girl.) (Just don’t tell Audry.)
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Haven’t seen Twilight yet due to a promise made to a friend. She is obsessed with Edward, but–due to her school’s honor code–she can not go see the movie. I told her if she decides to break the rules anytime in the near future to let me know.
I think the movie didn’t give enough time to characterize all of them. I mean, Edward and Bella don’t hook up until three quarters of the way through the book. The rest is literally getting to know everyone. Not to mention we barely get to know Alice in the movie. She’s there, and that’s all it really gave to us.
Also, I would have chosen anyone but Kristin Stewart. Have you seen the Messengers? She was the stereotypical horror protagonist.
She walks into a barn when she sees someone in there. When she finds the entity, it a small, blue-skinned boy huddled in the corner. And she is so stupid as to go up to him and say, “Are you okay? Do you need my help?” Then he attacks her. My friend and I always make fun of that. “Your skin is blue, are you dead? Can I help you?” haha hilarious. I also predicted the farmhand was the bad guy the moment I saw him.
Time is a luxury in a movie. You don’t hold the plot up to do character development; you do character development as the plot unfolds. (One of the things that drove me crazy in the book was that nothing freaking happens!) I agree that some of the Cullins got short shrift, otoh it’s Bella and Edward’s story, not theirs.
As for choosing anybody other than Kristin Stewart for Bella…who? Someone more age-appropriate, like Miley Cyrus? A part like Bella is really tricky to cast — she’s got to be plain, yet interesting and appealing. I thought Stewart was fantastic, and being in a badly-written horror movie prior to this had no effect on her performance.
I know, but it was just my prejudice against that role that made it seem less appealing to me. You know, like if oyu were to eat a raw hamburger and not like it, then be offered a cooked one. If you catch my drift.
Miley Cyrus is EVIL!!!! *dives behind sofa with machine gun to fend off the angry hordes of twelve year olds*
I agree Gobblin! *dives behind the sofa to give Gobblin some cover*
We’ll need these!
pulls out two huge paintball guns filled with different colors paintballs “So we know who got whom”
Ha ha! Nice, Maggie! Machine gun works better, though, and even then you have to use silver bullets.
We can’t kill twelve-year-olds! We can only give them bruises at the most! Might I suggest pineapples? Copies of Twilight? War and Peace? A Slinky? Oh wait… the slinky would kill them… nevermind!
Haha, I can’t stand Miley Cyrus, and of course she’s in every freaking magazine I read when I get bored at work (I work at a grocery store, and believe it or not it does get boring every now and then)
Twilight the movie was ok, only saw it because my mom likes the books and wanted someone to go with her. We laughed through most of it (or at least I did anyway) because the effects were so cheesy (the running and jumping were the funniest)
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…Friend after friend has begged me to read it, so I finally did…. It’s… good for teenage girls and fantasy films, but to those that think that it’s some great work of literature…um, sorry, no. But honestly, I WILL NOT see that film. The only reason that the book was appealing in the least was that (though cliched beyond belief) it was well written, and the narraration and detail made it easy to read. I can’t imagine that it could POSSIBLY translate well to screen…
Oh, and who the hell gives a crap about Miley Cyrus?
You might give a crap if your younger brother listens to her every single available moment of the day. In the car, at mealtime, during a moive; listening to it on the loudest setting on his iPod to where everyone in the room can here ,”I GOT NERVE!!” Not to mention he also sings while listening to it (very badly I might add…).
*movie not moive*
Oh Dear, I am so sorry
Eh, one learns to live with it.
Maggie, you have my greatest sympathies T_T
I’m fortunate enough that my younger sister can’t stand her either
Not to mention my brother also has a thing for High School Musical,…a big thing.